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I was watching The Daily Show episode for the 22nd, and the guest star was Liam Neeson, who is an excellent actor with one of those Voices You Don't Mess With. Unfortunately, his latest film (or at least its advertising campaign) doesn't appear to be worthy of its star; called Taken, it's a thriller about an ex-spy whose teenage daughter is kidnapped and who wages a one-man war to get her back. And all of the trailers and promotional clips I've seen have focused damn near exclusively on footage of a tearful teenage daughter on her cell phone with her father, scared out of her mind before being grabbed by unseen attackers to have God-knows-what done to her.

While the movie itself (from what I've read) is less about torture-porn as it is about Neeson's one-man war against the mysterious assailants, the sheer exploitative nature of the promos (why don't we ever see movies about 16 year old boys being kidnapped/tortured/raped? I guarantee you they're just as insecure and emotionally vulnerable) has grated on me severely every time I've seen them.

So why is Jon Stewart awesome? Because apparently it does the same for him (although, given that he's a parent himself, I'm sure part of his reaction comes from that angle too). But, being the classy guy that he is, he limits himself to a comically exaggerated "o.O" face and an "I don't like this movie" before talking to Liam Neeson about...horses.

ETA: Embedded player removed because the formatting was screwy. You can find the episode here if you'd like to have a look.

Having written all this out, it's striking me that a large part of my emotional reaction may have less to do with the cultural aspects as the personal. Specifically, that the father figure in my life since about age 13 has been largely undependable and later absent, and therefore the idea of being completely dependent upon such a one disgusts and frightens me more than it might someone else. It might explain the sheer viscerality of my reaction, which seems a bit strong for something as sadly common as a stereotyped female character in a mainstream Hollywood thriller.

Date: 2009-01-27 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] my-aerie.livejournal.com
Ransom is about a boy being kidnapped...donno if much torture/rape is involved, haven't seen it. Netflix recommended it to me and I read the plot summary and thought of it just now when you mentioned that movies are never about boys being kidnapped.


...I have nothing more to say. I added nothing of value to this. :D


(btw, I think there's a tag that needs closing or something in this entry, as it fucks up the entry when I view just it, and fucks up my friends page a bit too)
Edited Date: 2009-01-27 09:36 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-01-27 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseneko.livejournal.com
Sorry about that. Stupid formatting issues.

I guess it's nice to know that not everyone is into exploiting the "girl in distress" dynamic, but it's still far too prevalent for my taste. Sure, I realize that I don't have to watch these movies (and I don't), but when you're getting hit with ads like these (http://wrcdv.blogspot.com/2007/09/when-did-torture-become-sexy.html) on a semi-regular basis, it starts to get old quick. Ugh.

Date: 2009-01-27 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] my-aerie.livejournal.com
Not your fault, and wasn't totally mucking things up, just making it very wonky...


Unfortunately, damsel in distress is an archetype that we for some reason are not yet tired of...maybe someday.

Date: 2009-01-27 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gracewanderer.livejournal.com
The fact that you don't have to watch them shouldn't be a factor. Popular entertainment both reflects and informs popular culture, so if one is messed up the other will be too.

Date: 2009-01-27 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseneko.livejournal.com
I do believe strongly in the First Amendment, and if people really want to watch torture porn (which, given the popularity of the genre, they apparently do), I'm not going to ask them to stop making it. But, come on, people - the concept of "good taste" exists for a reason. Hammering people with ads that skirt that line (or completely cross it, as with the other example I cited above) isn't going to make them want to watch your movie. It's just going to make them feel ill.

That said, you make a very good point. But trying to place restrictions on popular entertainment is putting the cart before the horse - such movies might reinforce the damsel-in-distress fetish, but they're not the cause and banning them certainly isn't going to fix the underlying problems. The problem being, I'm not sure exactly how we can fix them.

Date: 2009-01-27 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gracewanderer.livejournal.com
Well, I didn't say to ban them - just that getting upset about them isn't wrong.

The movies are a symptom, not the actual problem. Until the problem is dealt with, they'll continue to be produced. Trying to get horror porn flicks banned would just be a waste of time and effort anyway.

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